dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.
besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.
it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.
DD- in your post, when referring to unvaccinated people- do you mean that the unvaccinated people being discussed here have already had covid and therefore are safe?
Or is it talking about unvaccinated people that also have no natural immunity because they havent been exposed to the covid virus?
im not here to start a debate.. ive heard the above expression countless time over the past year and a half and genuinely want to know what it means.. if you feel this way, do you mean :.
a. there is no covid19 virus?.
b. covid19 is real but not a threat of any kind?.
The reason I ask is because i was watching the news about Sydney, Australia, which is in the middle of a nasty surge of the delta strain, and a guy they interviewed on the street was adamant the pandemic wasn't real.
I know he isn't the only only one that feels like that and I was trying to understand how people come to that conclusion.
im not here to start a debate.. ive heard the above expression countless time over the past year and a half and genuinely want to know what it means.. if you feel this way, do you mean :.
a. there is no covid19 virus?.
b. covid19 is real but not a threat of any kind?.
Im not here to start a debate.
Ive heard the above expression countless time over the past year and a half and genuinely want to know what it means.
If you feel this way, do you mean :
a. There is no covid19 virus?
b. Covid19 is real but not a threat of any kind?
c. Covid19 is a government conspiracy?
d. All the extra dead people died from natural causes, or something other than covid19?
e. Covid19 is real and a health risk- but not worth worrying about?
If I have missed anything please let me know.
news is broadcasting that death valley is getting close to breaking a record.
the highest air temp recorded is 134 but that was in 1913 way before the huge spike in co2.
now its 130 and its the end of the world.
Mick:"you can't run a plane on solar or battery".
Yes you can mick, it's been happening for a while now.
Just because you really believe that what you say is right and describe what others say as bullshit, doesn't mean you are actually right.
news is broadcasting that death valley is getting close to breaking a record.
the highest air temp recorded is 134 but that was in 1913 way before the huge spike in co2.
now its 130 and its the end of the world.
Vidqun, is this the interview you are talking about?
That's an example of why I don't listen to headline grabbing shock jock's posing as climate experts.
news is broadcasting that death valley is getting close to breaking a record.
the highest air temp recorded is 134 but that was in 1913 way before the huge spike in co2.
now its 130 and its the end of the world.
Anon, I was talking about the great barrier reef in particular. And nowhere did I say it had died. Bleaching is due to heat stress, sometimes the reef recovers and sometimes it doesn't.
What exactly is your point?
news is broadcasting that death valley is getting close to breaking a record.
the highest air temp recorded is 134 but that was in 1913 way before the huge spike in co2.
now its 130 and its the end of the world.
Vidqun,
Quoting Alan Jones as the source of your facts tells me everything I need to know.
FYI, if the north polar ice cap totally melts it will have 0 effect on sea levels. Its already like ice floating in a glass of water, the effect it has on the sea level will remain the same after it has melted. On the other hand, melting Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets are a totally different story.
Thermal expansion of sea levels is the actual problem at the moment.
news is broadcasting that death valley is getting close to breaking a record.
the highest air temp recorded is 134 but that was in 1913 way before the huge spike in co2.
now its 130 and its the end of the world.
Mick, it might surprise you that I don't consider myself left at all, I would describe myself as conservative.
Nothing I said was straw man, it all happened and everything I've read by actual experts point to human activity as being the likely cause.
I actuality agree with you that things change, geological / climate changes happen so slowly that maybe we are experiencing a blip in a time scale that for the average human is hard to fathom.
That said, I guess the question remains, if you think human intervention is even partly to blame for climate change, what should we do about it? Pretend it isn't happening, burn more coal, drive bigger cars?
Especially since the covid pandemic, I've noticed that the same people that doubt epidemiological science, viral science etc, are also the same people that doubt climate science. Why is that?
news is broadcasting that death valley is getting close to breaking a record.
the highest air temp recorded is 134 but that was in 1913 way before the huge spike in co2.
now its 130 and its the end of the world.
Anon,
Yes, I'm sure you're right. I suppose events like the bleaching of the coral in the great barrier reef due to heat stress has nothing to do with rising temperatures. The fact that it has only ever happened 3 times in its history, all within the last 5 years or so is total coincidence and a left wing conspiracy.
Co2 in the atmosphere at levels not seen in a million years, also a conspiracy. The fact that the levels if Co2 have risen dramatically since the 1950s when everyone started driving cars, also when commercial air travel really took off, once again, all a left wing conspiracy.
Just before covid took over the news, Australia lost a billion animals in the worst bush fire ever, started by lightning strikes. Again, I'm sure it's coincidence that our hottest years on record have all occurred in the last decade. But, I suppose I should take the word of untrained internet experts over actual climate scientists.
Thanks for setting me straight.
news is broadcasting that death valley is getting close to breaking a record.
the highest air temp recorded is 134 but that was in 1913 way before the huge spike in co2.
now its 130 and its the end of the world.
Ok, I'm going to be 'that guy' and point out that there is a difference between local weather and climate.
